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Apologist have it wrong again.

Apologist have it wrong again.
A critical piece about Jim Spiegel’s “Unreasonble Doubt”
Source: http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/article_print.html?id=90929

The apologist Jim Spiegel wrote a recent article claiming what are the reasons why people are atheists. He starts the traditional apologetic response that there must be a god because there had to be a reason something must come from nothing and atheists don’t believe in god because they a biased and don’t want a god. That is not the reason why he wrote this piece. Jim claims that atheists are not rational as we claim we are. We have a non-rational claim why we don’t believe in their deities.

 Jim states that atheists repress the truth of god because we had troubled lives because of wickedness. It is that wickedness that suppresses the truth of god. Jim quotes from Romans as evidence that there is a god. The good old the Bible said so argument. He claimed that atheists don’t want change in their life because we don’t want to be “genuinely religious person.” He source is the Philosopher Mortimer J. Adler. The writer claims that Alder has not be religious most of his life. Well if he has done the research. Mr. Adler has been a supporter of theism most of his life. Around his twenties Mr Alder read a works of St. Thomas Aquinas and became a supporter of Thomism. From there he because a supporter of Catholicism and officially baptized Catholic in his eighties. He also points that since we are designed from god. We all have “sensus divinitatis,” a sense of the divine from god. The reason why Atheists are denying “senus divinitatis” is due to sin.

 The last part of this article, I believe is the low point of the article, talks about family troubles. Yes, he believes that most of the great atheist philosopher’s of the past were because who they were because. They had a mostly fatherless lives.

 It is not sin, hatred, or being fatherless that leads us to atheism. It’s what you called the lack of evidence and the logical fallacies of theism. For me for example, I don’t support the idea of a god due to the lack of scientific evidence of it and most of my life I love learning about science. I was taught not to believe without proof and good evidence to support the claims. Well a deity in this world clearly lacks these evidence. He can’t test or peer-review a deity, so we can not support the idea of a god.

 Also lets look at the philosophy ideals of it. The major thing that led my away from Christianity is the ideals of “suffering.” Why would a good and loving god let evil on this world? Why does god let one person live after a natural disaster while the rest of his or her village is gone? The only answer that apologists can tell me that “suffering” is the result of sin from Adam and Eve event in the Bible and we are unable to understand to know god’s reasons. Well if we are made in god’s image and made us smart. Why did god have to make us stupid to know god’s reasons. It does not make sense.

Lets go back to the article. Jim Spiegle uses baseless claims on most of his ideals in the paper. Atheists don’t care what the Bible tells. He had bad research or lied about Mortimer’s religious ideals. The ideal that atheists became who they are because they were fatherless is a fallacy due to the fact I meet and read about many theists who had bad or no relationships with their fathers and still Christians. Mr. Spiegel needs to stop writing or talking about who and what atheists are until he actually knows where we are coming from.

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When they really don’t want a response.

A facebook user sent me this video. (WARNING: IT MAY LOWER YOUR INTELLIGENCE)

The user wanted a reply.  Here is my reply:

I’ve noticed that the uploader has disabled comments on the video. That is a sign that he or she does not want to debate this video.

1. “The same force that gives objects weight also keep us on the ground. The same force that makes apples fall also holds the stars together. Without gravity, we wouldn’t be able to study the universe or live in it. Gravity is obviously evidence that the universe has been designed by a god.”

Gravity is not evidence of a god. Gravity is evidence of physics. It’s the curvature of the time and space which holds the solar system together. Did you now that gravity is the weakest force in the universe and galaxies can be still be torn apart even with gravity trying to hold together. Cosmologist has come up with Dark Matter which makes up almost 1/3 of the stuff in the universe. It’s Dark Matter and it’s gravity that holds the universe. Also there could be a chance that there is another universe without gravity with the multiverse hypotheses.

2. A quote from Isaac Newton still does not prove that a god. Yes, Newton was a very religious guy, but also note. His original mathematics only explained how things moved and not why it works. The explanation why is solved by Albert Einstein with theory of relativity.

3. The rainbow idea is laughable. What we see is the light spectrum. It’s a wavelength with different areas of frequencies. There is more than seven colors. Our eyes can only see only 7. There is also Unsaturated colors which we can only see by mixing wavelengths.

4. The dimensions idea is still not a fact. We have no testable evidence of dimensions. The mathematics says it could happen, but these mathematics have yet to be proven.

5. Fossilization is extremely rare, but we have TONS of evidence of evolution. Lucy and Ardi are early hominid who are closely related to us.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_human_evolution_fossils

6. Of course there are no fossils of chimps turning into humans because they are a cousin. We just share a common ancestor with them. We are related to them, but not a direct line.

7. Bible can not 100% accurate. Why? There are tons of mistakes like bats are considered birds. There is no evidence of a world-wide flood, but there are many local floods that happen over the billions of years. Bible claims that there are birds and insects that walk on four legs. The very absurd thing that the bible claims that the cure for leprosy involves incantations and the blood of a bird.

Did you know that there was a talking ass as well?

The Bible may have some events and locations that are true, but claiming the book is 100% accurate is false.

What else? There is no evidence of Jesus outside the Bible. Does that make the idea the Jesus is fiction true? No. Jesus could be a real man, but the ideas of miracles were created out of legend. Like the so-called miracle of Joseph Smith and even the Buddha.

Does my evidence disprove a god? No, but it lessens the evidence that a deity is needed to create the universe. If you want to show evidence, you better give me better evidence than that video showed me.

What is the response I get?

The evidence you are looking for is faith! That will come for you in time. There is plenty of evidence that the Bible is true. You have chosen to see only what you would like to be true! I love the story of the talking ass. GOD shows us He can use anything as He wishes and has total control!

How can you have a logical debate with someone who doesn’t really want a reply from you? I still wonder why I even try to debate to these type of people?

 
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Posted by on October 19, 2011 in Religion

 

If I had a personal soundtrack. This will be on my playlist.

Why should I believe that a deity has control in our lives that it must cause suffering?

If someone dies and believe that it was done by a reason of which we don’t know is a fallacy.  Death is a common on this planet and it part of nature. There is no plan set for our lives. Our lives are short. It’s better to do as much as you can before our lives end.

Why do people do bad things in the name of God?

One of the main reasons why I don’t like religion is due to all the suffering it caused. The many wars it supported, the genocide in the name of their gods, and to control people. The Pope uses his “granted” authority under their version of god to control the lives of billions of people who lead to war, genocide, and spread of HIV in Africa due to their ban of protection devices.  Usama Bin Laden believe he leading a war against the enemies of his god and terrorism is a necessary force to protect his version of god. Branch Davidians believed that David Koresh is the final prophet of god and they need to fight and die against anti-Christ US government.

Why do they do these things? It’s called faith. Faith is believing without evidence. Their faith is powerful that they will do anything to support their imaginary friend even if it causes suffering to many people and who maybe innocent as well. Because of this support of the ideals of faith. Millions of people have died fighting each over for who has the better imaginary friend.

What does this have to do with me?

Religion itself is one of the big reasons why I don’t believe in a god and religion in general. Religion is one of the most disruptive forces on the planet. I seen, hear, and watch people fight and die over who has the better god. It has brought genocide on this planet by condoning it their holy books.  A good example is the Jewish conquests of Judea. Their god commanded to kill all their enemies (including women and children) and livestock. Today, Jewish and Christian apologetic condone the mass genocide of people because in their holy book said that the enemies were wicked and the Jews needed the land and we can’t judge god because it’s not our duty to judge his morality. I can call bullshit on that and say we can just god’s morality in the bible. There is no excuse on this Earth to support genocide.

Religion can blind people from reason. There are millions of Americans who believe the Earth is only 6,000 years old and the end times is coming. They deny facts because those facts goes against what they believe. I can give my creationist friends TONS of evidence supporting my ideal, but chose to be blinded because of their faith. A 2,000 year old book says it’s true is not always true.

We live in a universe that is SO BIG that we are just a speck of a speck of a speck and so on. There is a possibly that there are BILLIONS of Earth like planets in this universe and some of them may contain intelligent life. Why would a god pick this one speck of a planet and one very very small speck of a tribe to be its chosen people where in that time there are hundreds of civilizations to choose. The chances are that tribe created their god to prove themselves that they are powerful than anyone else. Gotta love propaganda.

God is just damn to small compared what is in our universe.

Just like the artist in this video. I will spend my time slowing pounding the tree that is religion and hopefully those people who cling to it’s branches will fall to the ground that is reason.

 
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Posted by on October 4, 2011 in Ethics & Morality, Religion